Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Thank you for joining us here on the Spyshack podcast, the Challenge edition. This is a brand new podcast, part of the Spyshack podcast, but we're gonna take a be taking a look at other reality tv shows.
This is technically the second spinoff of the Spy Shack podcast, where we review a survivor, and I'm glad you all are able to join us with me making her podcast debut as my sister in law, Ruth. How are you doing today, Ruth?
[00:00:27] Speaker B: I'm doing good. Hello. Hello. I'm very excited to be here. I love the challenge, and I rarely find people to talk about it with because I don't know that many people that actually watch it, so this is gonna be a lot of fun.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: That's the same thing I have with Survivor and horror sometimes. If you follow me on my other podcast, the nerds from the crypt, you will know this person's voice. Greg is joining us for the podcast as well. How are you doing, Greg?
[00:00:52] Speaker C: I'm doing good, but I think you totally tricked me. So you told me you were gonna be talking about big brother, not whatever this is, so, like, I was all stoked, and because I knew of a character of a player on this, on this, and I was. I was excited because you showed me a picture, and now I'm like, this is. And I just watched this thing, and I'm like, you hoodwink me, dude.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: It's the best way to do it. So just to give everyone kind of, I guess, a background on how much we know of the challenge. My sister on Ruth actually is the one that knows the most of the. Of the shows. She's seen further back, way further back than I have. Have you seen them all, or how many have you seen?
[00:01:37] Speaker B: I feel like there's this pressure to know everything because he was, like, telling me, you know, that I know all this stuff. I'm like, I watch them all. I think as far back as I can think is the duel, which is pretty far back.
I have gone and seen other seasons prior to that, but I think I've seen every single season since the duel.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: What era is the duel in?
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Probably one or two. I think it's two.
The thing is, is I know all eras, and I know all the. Like, I. I have favorites in single. In every single era, and so it's crazy to divide them up into eras because a lot of people like Derek and CT have played and been on shows with people that are, like, an era four, and so it's all one big mesh for me, other than, like, people like Veronica like, yeah, she definitely belongs in era one or mark.
But, yeah, I. I never thought of myself as somebody that knows a lot about the challenge, and now I feel like the pressure is on to know everything about the challenge. As we go on with this.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: If I. If we were to bring up, like, why does this person not like, this person? I'm pretty sure you're gonna be more. More able to answer why.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: And it's usually because either they slept with someone that person liked or they backstabbed somebody.
[00:03:00] Speaker C: But so much, so much drama in this.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: First, there is a lot, and I don't. I don't really follow them on social media. I. There's, like, a handful of people that I follow on social media, and now, like, thinking about this podcast earlier today, I was like, I think I might need to start following more people just to keep up with all the tea and the drama, and it's crazy. And I haven't been on Twitter, which I don't even think it's called Twitter anymore, but I don't call it the other show.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: Don't call it by the other thing.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: Okay. Well, I think when I used my account, that's where I followed everybody, and that's where I was able to, like, keep up with most of it. But I don't even have the app anymore, so I'm gonna have to, like, I feel like I gotta reactivate and go back into, like, digging deep for all of these things because I don't know.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: I don't even use the other, other website. I still go to twitter.com. i don't care.
[00:03:51] Speaker C: Go to Twitter.
[00:03:52] Speaker A: So I think I started following it around the twenties. So it's era three, and then kind of fell off for a bit. Then I came back and I fell off and fell off. I kind of, uh. It kind of burned me out because there's a time there. There they were, like, doing challenge and then a week off, and then the next challenge was starting and then a week off and then next, and it was like, this is too much. But I think now with the spin offs, I think that's kind of being a little bit easier to keep up with it.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: It's been harder for me to. So I haven't watched any of the all stars. So, Greg, if you don't even. You're like, oh, no.
[00:04:27] Speaker C: What?
[00:04:28] Speaker B: There's a whole other spin off called All Stars, and it's on Paramount. This is not paid advertisement, I promise. I'm just kidding. But.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: Peacock.
[00:04:40] Speaker C: No, no, not peacock. I'm sorry.
[00:04:42] Speaker B: I was like, is it peacock?
[00:04:43] Speaker A: No, I think it's paramount.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: Paramount. Okay. It's paramount. I don't even have paramounts. I haven't seen any of the All Stars. And that's where a lot of these people that were, like, an era, one, two, and three, that's where they've been playing for the past. That's where they brought them out of. And then now they're finally back on MTV. So I haven't. I haven't seen some of those in the all star drama. I have no clue what it's about.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: So getting them back in shape because.
[00:05:06] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a. That's a whole, like, a whole other show where they bring in, like, that's. That's basically, like, stuff from the challenge. Road rules and, like, brother. Right.
[00:05:19] Speaker A: Well, now they have survivor. They have a challenge. America or something that. USA or whatever. Right. Or something like that.
[00:05:27] Speaker B: NBC or ABC.
[00:05:29] Speaker A: No, I think it's those. I think it's paramount only. I don't think they can show it on tv anymore. But it's. That's where they have that wild.
Well, no, no. That's where they bring in. That's why they're bringing in, like, the amazing rays. They're bringing survivor players to bring. And then from the survivor players, they've actually. From there, they've actually made it back on onto the mainstream challenge. However, some have made the leap from survivor to the challenge right off the bat without having to go through this little other spin off. Believe Michelle Gerald J. I don't forget his last name. Natalie. The 20. They've made it all on the show without having to go through a spin off. Sara Lacena, she made it, I think, on one, but because she had won the. The driver, say, or survivor america, I forgot what they called it. So she made it, I think. I think she made it on one.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: I'm not sure.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: I might be lying about that, but, yeah. And, greg, when did you start watching the challenge?
[00:06:28] Speaker C: Okay. I joke I kid 2 hours ago because, no, I mean, that's actually closer to the truth. Yeah.
So I've heard of the show.
I just never had, like, actually watch. I know some of the. Some of the competitors and stuff like that from other shows that I do watch. So I watch big brother. I watch survivor. I watch traitors.
So I'm familiar with CT and, like, you know, I will just say it. Era one. Awesome dude. He's my fave.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: Yes. He's the goat.
[00:07:06] Speaker C: He is the goat.
Yeah. No, like, literally, my time with it is very short. And I will say I'm super excited because, like, I really do like the competitors on what we're watching because it's cool to see some of the ones that I do know competing and wanting to know, like, what the hell is up with some of this drama that's going on because I can only imagine because I've seen them on other stuff and it's like, I can get why some of the drama is there. Mean, they. They bring the drama, some of them.
[00:07:43] Speaker A: So let's talk about the show real quick since this is the reason why we're. We're podcasting today.
Challenge 40 battle the air of the eras. Since they're celebrating the 40th season, they brought 40 players back from four different, different eras. I'm gonna just go through them real quick. From era one, which is poses. From season one through ten, you have Tina Barda, Katie Cooley, Aneese. I'm gonna go by their first name because I'm not gonna be able to say some of these last names. I might not be able to say some of the first names. Anissa, Brad, Derek, Mark, Rachel, CT, Darryl and Jody. From there. Who are your favorites?
[00:08:23] Speaker B: I do like Jodi. I always thought she was just like, how do you say it? Like a true competitor. Like, she wasn't really involved in a lot of drama. I feel like she's just like a wholesome person. That's what I gather from watching her. I do love Derek and CTA, obviously. CT Moore. Let's just for the record, state he's my ultimate favorite player.
Let me see who else? Anisa. She's.
I have mixed feelings about Anissa sometimes, but overall, I think.
I think she definitely deserves to be there. She is a trailblazer for the women in the challenge. I guess it's not a season without Anisa.
Who else? You know, back in the day, Katie. Some of the first seasons that I saw her in, she kind of just annoyed me. But it's just weird. Like, I haven't seen Katie and Veronica compete in a while, and it's like, back in the day, they were like these loud, crazy people, and now they're all older and more calm. They're all moms. And it's just. They're just different personalities now.
[00:09:26] Speaker A: I was telling Tabitha, my wife Ruth's sister, about the. The episode because she hasn't watched these, these episodes yet. And I was telling her, you know, the people from error one and I think some of error two were. They were like, yeah, we used to be able to go out and party like, all night. Like the ones that are out there drinking and staying up goes. But now, like, we. We fall. We go to bed, like at 10:00 or whatever.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: Yes. They were all in bed that first.
[00:09:49] Speaker A: From that first episode and on the same.
I was gonna do something and I forgot to do this. I did. I was gonna say kind of their stats. I'll just go real quick. In error one. Tina is. Has eight challenges. Katie has eleven challenges with one win. Issa is in 17 challenges. She has never won, but I believe she's getting gotten pretty close. Is that correct?
[00:10:11] Speaker B: She has run a couple finals. Yes.
The last season she was in. She was in the final with Jordan.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Brad with 13 challenges, one win. Eric, 13 challenges, three wins. Mark, eight challenges, two wins. Rachel, eight challenges, two wins. CT, 19 challenges, five wins. Daryl, 14 challenges, four wins. And Jody, five challenges, two wins from there. I think my favorite one is actually CT, mainly because he just seems like he doesn't take things too serious. Although from what I hear from the past ones, I think he did take things a little bit more serious back in the day. But seeing them on the traitors and seeing him on other stuff, I think he is my favorite. Nissa, like I said, I. There's times I do like it, or sometimes I don't. I think it depends on the season and the drama. She gets into.
Era two. We have Derek, five challenges. Namiyah, seven challengers, one win. Bananas, 23 challenges, seven wins. Kellyanne, seven challenges. Ryan, seven challenges. Aviv, one challenge, one win. Brandon, six challenges. Emily, three challenges, one win. Cara Maria, 15 challenges, two wins. And Laurel, eight challenges, two wins.
Not as many wins on this one, but probably because bananas has hogged attention.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: He was in those eras with them.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: So bananas is the. The one that I know the most because he just hasn't gotten off the show since he started. Who's your favorite? Ruth.
[00:11:54] Speaker B: I like a lot from that era.
Let me see.
I like. I love Laurel and Emily. I was. I was always waiting, like, for them to bring Emily back. And I almost started watching all stars because I heard. I. I saw that she was in some of those. But I do love Emily as a competitor. I feel like she is a beast, for sure. I used to be a huge car fan, and then she started dating Pauly.
I don't like him. So it just. The drama when they were playing the game together and War of the worlds, like, the way they just, like, did everybody dirty and played their own game, which, I mean, that's what make. That's the whole point of the team of the show, I just. I did not like a lot of the decisions and the people she burned during that, so I. She put a kind of a salty taste in my mouth. But I think Emily and Laurel are for sure my. My top girls for that era. For the guys, it was kind of. I feel like the guys they brought back were kind of random, like, Ryan and Derek. Like, I feel bad to say this. Like, I hope they don't all hear this and come back for me. Right.
I'm just a little old girl at San Antonio, Texas.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: One of the. One of the five listeners from the right.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: One of the five people we got on here are going to like, I'm gonna get canceled on my first episode, but I don't know. I'm like, really? Of all the guys you could have brought back for Jan, for Johnny to have on his team, I do like Brandon and Nehemiah, but I don't know. I feel like there was different guys they could have brought back, but, yeah, I think Derek and Ryan were just the most random people to bring back. I'm like, were they that memorable or, like, made that much of an impact?
[00:13:32] Speaker A: But, I mean, Ryan has only been seven. Derek has been five. So it's not like they've been here, been on so many times compared to other people, or at least the other one, like Emily, who only has three challenges. She at least has a win.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: And I also watched real world back in the day, so I knew. I know Emily from her real world season as well, so I think that's why I like Emily, too.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: Did you know any of these people, Greg?
[00:13:59] Speaker C: No.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Not even bananas? You didn't know bananas from the one episode, from the five minutes he was on, the traitors?
[00:14:08] Speaker C: I remember, I.
Five minutes. I remember. Yeah, I remember his five minutes of fame on trailers, but no.
[00:14:16] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that was so bad that they. I know we're not supposed to talk about it, but I thought it was so bad that they got him out the first time. But honestly, if I was playing, that would be the guy to get out, because you just never know what he's gonna do.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: As you see these the season, you'll probably figure out why. Why they targeted him, um, for the first kill.
[00:14:39] Speaker C: No, no, that was. I, like, just not even. I'm.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: So let's go on to era three. We have Tori, nine challenges, one win. Amanda, seven challenges. Leroy, 13 challenges.
Is that that Jonah or Joanne? Or, how do you say, John? A okay, thank you. See? Ten challenges, two wins. Nia, four challenges. Tony, nya four challenges. Tony, seven challenges. Avery, three challenges. Devin, seven challenges, one win. Corey, ten challenges. Jordan, nine challenges, four wins. Favorites out of this one.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: That is a tough one. I think they are my favorite era as far as the people that are on their team. I love Tori. She's one of the handful of people that actually follow on social media. I love Leroy big leaf. Avery. I also like her. I think she's a all around decent human being. Like, she doesn't. She's not involved in the drama. She doesn't do anything dirty. She plays by the rules, and, like, she's just. She's pretty athletic and good at the challenges.
I honestly didn't like that they brought NYA for this also, because, like, there's some people where I'm like, why would you bring them, like, to this biggest season? I'm like, did everybody. I guess everybody else already had kids and I couldn't come. I don't know. I'm just kidding.
[00:15:59] Speaker A: That usually means that someone said no and they couldn't get someone in.
[00:16:03] Speaker B: Yeah. But Nia just was a lot of drama on her real world season and in the challenges that she was in, I just didn't like the drama she caused half the time. But I don't know. But I don't know. We'll see how she does, because, I mean, she's. She's made it on forward. I just know when she had first started the challenge, like, she wasn't very athletic. Like, she lost a lot of the challenges, but then, like, she'd compete down in the. In the sand, so they say. And because of her size, she was able to get some people out. But I feel like she's not that great of a player.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: Since I just started watching it in the era three, I thought I would know more of them, but I guess more of the people that I know is actually era two because they pretty much all competed in era three as well.
Devon, actually, I hated him when he first came in, but he's actually grown on me, especially the season that he won.
So I did. I did really like him in that season, so I'm actually going for him in this one.
It took me a while to get to real, to recognize Tony in the beginning especially well, and we'll talk in here a little bit, but in that first challenge, I'm like, really? What are you doing?
And then I got this Tony. Yeah, I remember this guy.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: Yeah. He always got involved too much in the drama and the partying, and he usually would get kicked out of the house before he can actually compete, but I think he's a. He's okay, I guess. Like, as a competitor, he was cool. And I know he tries really hard, and he wants to make a name for himself in the challenge, other than, like, being a man whore or getting in fights and sleeping around. But we'll see what he does this season.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: I doubt Greg knows any of these.
Greg will at least know that one. At least one or two of the next one era. Four seasons, 31 to 39. 39. Um, you have Polly Ruth's favorite. Uh, four challenges. Theo, three challenges. Casey, five challenges, one win. Michelle Fitzgerald. I, um. I'll do her first full. For her full name because, uh, she's also a survivor winner. She's four challenges. Horacio, two challenges. Who actually, my mom hates. He. He appears. He actually appeared in another show.
I don't remember what. Which one it was. It's. It's a. It's a telemundo show. It's kind of like the challenge. I think it's actually a little bit more hardcore than the challenge. But she didn't like him on that one, and when I told him he was on this one, she's like, yeah, I don't like him.
We have Olivia, two challenges. Josh Martinez, six challenges.
How do you say that?
[00:18:45] Speaker B: They say Neurice.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Okay. Two challenges. Jenny, two challenges, one win. And Kaland.
Kylan. You see, I never know how to pronounce some of these names. Two challenges. So, yeah, these guys have the least amount of challenges, but that's to be, I guess, expected because it's just the last final, the last nine challenges that they're from. And like I said, the other era two really has really dominated the last couple seasons mixed with era three. So I know more of those people. So I want to ask, Ruth, how did you feel when you first saw the announcement of the challenge 40 battle?
[00:19:26] Speaker B: I was so excited. I was so excited just because I had been waiting when I was like, when is the challenge coming back? I don't want to have to get paramount to watch these people. It is a little.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Or use mine.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I have to drive to Seoul's house just to watch some of them.
No, I was excited, especially seeing, you know, that CT was going to be there and the older people, like Mark and Derek, Veronica, and just seeing them finally all come together, because in some of the episodes or the past seasons that are, like, in era four, they always talk about those people or, like, those people. I could take them out and, you know, they. They try to compare themselves to the legends in the game and say that they could totally take them out, but they haven't had a chance to actually play with them. Although there were some times fessy, which I'm surprised they didn't bring him, he must have been busy doing something. You know, Fessy talked a lot of crap about the legends and how he could take them out. And then I think he was, I don't know who he was in the sand with. I don't know if, I think it was CT and CT whipped his butt, but yeah, I think it finally. So those people, people like in era four or three can put the shut to the up and it's like, all right, now's your time to play with these legends that you say you can be and see how it all goes. I think just putting them all in one roof is going to be entertaining for me.
[00:20:52] Speaker A: So quick question. Do you think, because I'm going to show my survivor bias here, do you think Jay would have been a better fit for any of the era for, like, instead of bringing in someone from the era for.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: I feel like they probably could have brought him other than, rather than Polly or even Theo, even though I love Theo. It's just like, he's a Brit. He's not even american.
They could have done a different challenge. But I feel like that era is all about, like, all the war, the world international. Yeah. All the people that they brought into this game, they had Australians. And I mean, Jenny is on there, too. She's nothing american.
The way he played, the way Jay played this last season, he was in. I did not like, and I was, I was a fan of Jay up until last season.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: See, I didn't see last season. I got busy. I was, I got busy doing my, graduating with my masters.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: Never mind.
No, it was that, I feel like that last season was the most dramatic, and that's where a lot of it, since it was just the most recent season, a lot of that is still brewing here in eras. But Jay was to blame for most of it. And I just, ugh.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: And the reason I asked, because I actually had looked to see why he wasn't on the, on the season and someone, I said, someone posted on Reddit, do you think Jay will ever come back? Like, oh, crap, what happened?
But, yeah, I guess I have to go back and watch.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And a lot of times things happen, I think, like after they record and, you know, if somebody files a complaint or whatever, and then they're like, banned. Like, there's several people that have been banned from the challenge, because things that they've said and done, I think.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: I think I asked you last time, but I couldn't remember her name again, the one that got banned for. For saying things.
Camilla Camila. I couldn't remember her name. I was, like, trying to talk to.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: I wish she could come back. I wonder if, like, I don't think she's. What are the statue of limitations on the things she said? Like, can she come and play or not?
[00:22:51] Speaker A: No, she's. I think she's canceled by the people to.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: Well, there is also the Australian, and she won. What was her name? I can't remember, but she said some things, and so I noticed some of the later episodes because she actually ran the final, and she won, but they did not give her any camera time. Like, they did not. They didn't show it in the episodes. And so I had research that I was like, how come they aren't showing her? And again, she had said something or did something against MTV rules or whatever, offended something, and so they just, like, basically cut her out of the cameras, didn't. Didn't air the scenes she was in.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: That's happening in a lot of shows, I think.
Let's jump into the first challenge. Right off the bat, they have to do this. Did they even have a name for this challenge? I'm sure there's a name, but it's pretty much, do this puzzle.
[00:23:47] Speaker C: Light up. Light up your.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: Let up your 40.
Basically do a quick 40 shaped puzzle, jump into this big teacup, paddle down, and then. Oh, you have to. You have to pull the. These.
Were they like, rods with lights on them? I don't know. I don't know. Batons, and then go and play some into the. Into the 40, right? Yeah. Did I miss anything? I mean, I feel like that was it, but it was. Not to say that it was an.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Easy thing, but, yeah, it was the puzzle. Then they had to swim, collect them all, and then put them in the board.
[00:24:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So the. The caveat here was that this was already gonna be playing into the elimination for the first two episodes. First person for every era to win would nominate somebody to go against the last person to make it back to the. To the. I guess to the shore or whatever. Yeah.
Against that person. And both males and females were going to have a nomination and an elimination. So right off the bat, we were going to lose. What is it? 2468 people right off the bat.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: I don't think any. Anybody expected that when they announced it, and I was like, what the heck? And I immediately looked like, how long is this episode? I was like, dang it. None of them are even gonna be in this episode. We have to wait next week.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: I knew that was gonna happen because we were supposed to. Well, we were supposed to do this last week, but my wife had a later flight than I actually expected, so we ended up not doing the. Postponing it. But I was like, we don't have to watch the first episode anyways because first episode never has an elimination.
So then I. Then I watched it with the second one. I was like, yeah, well, shoot. They're gonna have to have at least one elimination, right? To be able to get eight people out. No, they split. They technically split the first episode in two. And I feel like me.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: Sorry. Go ahead.
[00:25:51] Speaker A: No, go ahead. Go ahead.
[00:25:53] Speaker B: Is it just me, or. They did not ever air, like, when they made the decisions.
[00:25:58] Speaker A: Like, I did not.
[00:25:59] Speaker B: They. Okay. I thought I was so lost when they started. When they started this week's episode with Artie, the people and the sand and the. I was like, wait, they already know who's competing? And I was like. And then they did a lot of, like, I don't know the correct term, but they went back and showed you, like, the discussions, flashbacks. Yeah, yeah. Earlier hours of the day, and it's just like, I don't know. It's kind of weird. They've never really aired the show that way before, where they started with and then show you bits and pieces of how they came to those decisions.
[00:26:29] Speaker A: Well, this is why I was saying that I feel like this should have actually been into the two different episodes, but on the same night, it makes no season. Breaking this up a week when there's not an elimination, it really. I don't like watching episodes or weeks without an elimination.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:26:44] Speaker C: I was very angry.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: I mean, here's the thing. I didn't watch it last week because I knew we weren't gonna do it anyways. But even watching it back to back, I did feel that, like, wait, what the.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: I.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: When I watched the second season, the second episode, because I'm like, what did I miss? What's going on? They were going into this confessional thing, whatever. I forgot what they called it.
Yeah. To talk, to, nominate. And then all of a sudden, they're walking out. I'm like, what in the world?
So I want to ask.
Well, here's the thing.
Part of my. My thing with the challenge. And I tell my wife all the time, they take things way too personal on this, on the game. Yeah, I get it. They're friends, and I get it. They've known and I'm sure they've been backstabbed many, many times by each other, but it's a game. That's what they're what, that's what you're supposed to do. Right. And I feel like just bringing back survivor real quick, I feel like that happened a lot in the first couple seasons where people were just so, so upset, so just devastated by being betrayed. However, the last at least 15 seasons, maybe up, not now. What I say 20, about 15 seasons, they've been casting more superfans. And each year it's more and more superfans to the, to the point that they know that they need to backstab. So they're expecting to be backstabbed. So now they're backstabbing before they get backstabbed.
[00:28:16] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: So there's no person, there's not a lot. There's not a as much personal feelings when it comes to, to this. And most of the time, even when they are showing personal feelings, they actually make up and they're actually pretty good friends off the camera.
[00:28:31] Speaker C: That can be this, that can be said the same for big brother. It's like people are blown up the house before the house could even be out.
It's, it's like what? Just.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Okay, now the challenge is a little bit different because you have people who have actually made a career of coming back to the challenge.
[00:28:51] Speaker B: Right.
[00:28:52] Speaker A: You have bananas, you have CT, you have Anisa. The people like that, that just, that's, that's their job now.
I think they even say it right. That's their job. They don't really, they don't really plan on doing. I don't know if they do other stuff, but they podcast probably and I do anything.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: Bananas has a lot of podcasts. People have opened their businesses or now, you know, there's influencing involved and they're content creators and for all these brands.
And I don't know, I know some people do have actual jobs. Like Amanda, I think is a nurse or something. Like she works in the medical field, but she also doesn't do that many seasons. But, yeah, basically those people that you mentioned, it basically is their life.
[00:29:35] Speaker A: The lifers.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Although I think I never, I think CT, like, was in a movie or something. Like he did a little bit of acting.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: Yeah, he's done like one or two things. I think. I think he's done a movie and I think he was on the soap or something.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: Yeah. He's had some tv appearances. Well, and John and Bananas does yeah, he's on. He's all over the place with reality shows. But he did, like, some hosting. It wasn't entertainment Tonight. It was something else. Like, something like that. That. And would, you know, would be, like, on red carpets or at different award shows and, like, do, like, interviewing and. And stuff like that.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: So he was supposed to be. I actually. He was on a show called Hustle Villains. I never watch it, though.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't see that one.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: I want to go back and watch it. But he was on there. People. Some people. I don't know what the final people who went out there, but I know they had talked about bringing Johnny Fairplay.
So those of, you know, survivor, who that is, they had, like, Omarosa.
I can't remember who else they were bringing back.
[00:30:44] Speaker C: Some people from other big names from other, other games. And I remember hearing about it. I was like, oh, man, sounds really good.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I just can't remember what other. And then there's a season two already, so I need to watch the first ones. I can watch the second one, but, I mean, depending if it's good or not, because if it's not good, I'm not gonna go to the second one.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: I didn't watch it because the only person I knew was bananas.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Um, well, I mean, technically, I guess. I know there's two people from challenge. The other two that stayed. Right. So never mind. From the traders, anyone before we go, the eliminations, anyone that you're surprised that didn't. Didn't come back?
[00:31:24] Speaker B: I was thinking of them. I can't even think of them now, though.
[00:31:28] Speaker A: I'm sure there's one. There's one or two that I could. I would have probably thought of later, earlier than I did. Just don't remember now. So. Yeah. So after talking a lot, we had. We saw some drama in episode one where they're kind of talking back and forth, and Tori is trying to make sure that she doesn't go into the Tori one.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Tori one. So she didn't need to go in, does she?
[00:31:54] Speaker A: First one. Wait, what am I thinking of?
[00:31:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it was Tori and Corey.
[00:32:01] Speaker A: That's right. That's right. She was. She was campaigning for right. Not to. Not to send Polly in.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: No, they're not in the same.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm thinking of the wrong person. I'm thinking Kara Maria. I don't know why I'm thinking toride. Yeah.
[00:32:16] Speaker B: And that's because prior to this, I will was like, do you have your notes? And I was like, it's all in my head. Don't worry. I don't need notes.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: Yeah, you see? You see, you know, the name you. I know. You know, I knew who I was thinking of in my head, and I'm like, wait, did she. Oh, you're right. No, you're right. It's Kara Maria. And I was. Was trying to trick, quote, unquote, people into not picking her to go against the, you know, for the. For the elimination.
I get what she was doing, but it's like, it seems so fake that, like, not even people who would be thinking strategically would even fall for that.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: But in her defense, and like I said, I have mixed feelings about her. She. And she. She pointed out, too, she beat bananas in that challenge like it was Laurel and then Cara right behind her. You know, sometimes people are throwing people in because of strategy and they don't want them in the final or because they don't like them because of the drama. But, you know, in the earlier seasons, like, the people that went in to fight for their spot were the people that did bad. And so I like it when they vote the bottom players. I think it's just easier and cleaner that way to play the game rather than getting all, like, political and stuff. And so if you go based on who deserved to have to, like, fight for their stay in the game, they should have done the, you know, picked the worst, the next worst player, and Cara was not it for. For that. You know, she beat. She beat bananas by a long shot on that challenge, but unfortunately, she went in, which I wasn't mad about her going in either. And, I mean, she came back. She's back. It wouldn't. I think she needed to be back for the show just to. To keep the drama going.
[00:33:55] Speaker A: I'm more of a strategic component, so I. Yeah, I would be like, do I like her? Maybe I don't need a voter out. Maybe if I don't like her, people don't like her, then maybe I can. She can stay in because then I people. Someone else will do my job for me and get rid of her. But if it's a strong person, especially if the person who was gonna be in it automatically is a strong person, then get rid of the. Get. At least get one of. Rid of one strong person.
[00:34:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: Now, like I said, a lot of the. The way I think is. Is tainted. Not tainted, but I guess colored by what. What I've seen through survivor, and it's. It's. It's different there because you at least know the format, kind of what you're gonna do. You know, you're gonna be in it on a. In a tribe. You're gonna compete together. So you want us keep the strongest for the. At least for the. For the first part of the game.
[00:34:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: And when it comes to the second part of the game, that's when you go after the. The strong. You know, the strength here, though, they mix it up so much. You don't. You never know if you're gonna be playing in a team. You be playing in. In. As a couple or individual.
So they don't know. Really, they don't. They even said it. We don't know what this season has for us. So, yeah, if you don't know what's gonna happen, you might end up in a t, as a teammate to someone that you don't like, you don't want to be with, or you might be against someone who is stronger than you or stronger than your teammate that might bring you down later on in the future. So I get why they would want to take out the people that they feel strong, that are strong ahead of time. So I feel like they did kind of bring that up in. During the. During the last part of the first episode.
[00:35:47] Speaker C: I don't feel like some of it was all about strategy in that sense. I think some of it was just.
[00:35:51] Speaker A: Like, oh, no, blood field.
Definitely.
Yeah, no, definitely. Some of it, like, that's why I said earlier, like. Like, these people, some of them do take it way more personal than what I've seen in other. Other shows. But like I said, they. They've been doing this for so many years together, so they don't like each other. They don't like each other.
[00:36:17] Speaker C: Amanda.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: Now, season, episode. I keep saying season two. Episode two is all nothing but elimination. So good thing. Good thing we did this together, right? Because if we did in the last week, we would have been. We really wouldn't have anything to talk about.
[00:36:38] Speaker B: I would have been educating y'all.
[00:36:40] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:36:41] Speaker C: So, Madden, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have dialed in.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: I would have said pass.
So, era one, do you want to talk about the challenges that they're. The games that they're gonna be playing? There's pole wrestle, there's hall brawl, take shelter. And what was the other one? Balls in. What is your favorite of those games?
[00:37:12] Speaker B: Okay, I can go. I don't know who you're asking. Sorry.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: Greg's not gonna know.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: He could have picked a favorite one from seeing it last night or an hour ago.
[00:37:21] Speaker C: I can tell you what? I think after, but please tell us.
You're the expert.
[00:37:27] Speaker B: I just really am talking so much.
What's it called? Hall brawl is a good one. I do like that one.
Um, just also because it's just faster. Like, it's a faster elimination.
[00:37:42] Speaker A: It isn't leg.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It. You said there's a lag.
[00:37:46] Speaker A: No, it doesn't lag. It isn't. They're not sitting there for, like, an hour.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, you hit, you try to go to the other side. Bing bada bing bada boom. It's done. You're out. Take shelter always makes me anxious, and it's kind of. They mixed it up with a different one they used to do where there was, like, a jungle gym with the rope and they had to untangle. It's the same concept. That one always gives me anxiety because you really don't know where the person, like, are they winning? Are they losing?
And it just depends on who's competing for, like, the balls in and the pole wrestle, because obviously, I like to see the guys. Like, this just gets so intense. Although Anissa and Katie did a pretty good.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: I can't wait to talk about that one.
[00:38:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But I think overall, just because. Don't know my age or what, but, like, these. Seeing the eliminations, like, the last few years, like, it gives me anxiety. Like, I'm, like, my heart is racing. I'm, like, the edge of my scene. I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. And so with hall brawl, there's less of that because it's less back and forth. It gets straight to the point and the impact. And, you know, you would think, like, some of some people that you might underestimate have pulled out wins on those. Like, it's just like they said, all about the impact and where you hit and how you can take a hit. So.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: So let's talk about the first elimination. It was what, the era three. Um, went first. Uh, balls in.
Now, I think Greg will know what I'm talking about. Does this not. Does this challenge not just. I kind of remind you of american gladiators?
[00:39:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
Like, as soon as they start.
[00:39:21] Speaker A: Not exactly, but yeah, but yeah.
[00:39:23] Speaker C: No, I was like, oh, this is very. This is like an american gladiator size challenge. This is like, they have to get from here into a ring, throw a ball into a hole, get past a competitive gladiator. Yeah, a gladiator who's. Who's gonna smash them.
[00:39:41] Speaker A: So I'm. We'll talk about right now, but I'm a little confused on the, um, on the. The rules of this. Yeah.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: So in the past, when I think the one that first came out, it was just the. The hole in the middle, like the bin. I want to call it like a trash can, and you had to get it in the thing, and I think for people's safety, because times, competitors, they would knock over the barrel or they'd get body slammed in the barrel and stuff. So I think that's when they made that second ring where, like, if you're in the ring, you basically made it. You can't, once the ball gets within that. That sand area, you basically win or you got it, which I really don't like, especially with, like, when the guys competed, because, like, all Tony had to do. Was it Tony?
[00:40:29] Speaker A: Mm hmm.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: Yeah. All Tony had to do was, like, he just pivoted and, like, put the ball in the sand, and then he got. Got the point, and I'm like, that is so not fair.
[00:40:37] Speaker A: We'll see. The part that confused me was that in the. For the female, which is Nya and Amanda, who was it up first?
[00:40:46] Speaker B: Amanda.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Is it Amanda that lost the ball?
No, no. Nia lost the ball, but she was able to pick it up and go ahead and score. But then in the next one, Amanda lost the ball, and it was dead.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know if they had a number of seconds, like, to get the ball because it looked like when the guys were playing, somebody was going for the ball, and then, I guess too much time passed, and then they called it a dead ball, but, yeah, it was. It was kind of weird.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: I don't. I think in other seasons, they would. They would have get showing the. The actual rules. Right.
[00:41:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:21] Speaker A: But because there's so much going on, they had to trim some of it out, I think, is if the ball fell in the middle, in the. The. In the middle of the two rings, it was still alive. But if I fell out out of the ring, it's dead. I think that's what it was. But I don't know.
[00:41:35] Speaker C: I think they didn't want Amanda back in the house.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: So the.
So the era, three male competitors was Leroy, who was there automatically as the challenge loser, and Tony as the winner's vote. Do you remember why they chose Tony?
Did they show anything about why they chose Tony?
[00:41:58] Speaker B: I don't think so. I think he was the one that had the least amount of connections with Tori and Corey.
[00:42:05] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:42:06] Speaker B: I think that. I think that's what it came down to, because who else is in that.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: Era like you're not in our, you can't sit here with us.
[00:42:13] Speaker C: Basically we got the sad table at the lunch room.
[00:42:18] Speaker A: First though was Nya and Amanda. Nya being the loser and Amanda being the winner's vote. Did we have any indication of why Amanda went in?
Well Greg, I get Greg, you've been, you've been wanting to talk about this the whole episode.
[00:42:33] Speaker C: I think she just, she brought the drama under her, I think and I think she just went in with so much, so much swagger that she didn't think she would get picked.
And then as soon as she got picked she was like have you? And she was just like ah, yeah.
[00:42:54] Speaker A: No, everyone was, was surprised that Shady's got one point. But honestly I think for like Nia just didn't, wasn't paying attention to what was going on because she kind of did some move and then nya thought.
[00:43:07] Speaker B: It was over and okay. Like ran and did it like.
[00:43:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:43:11] Speaker B: Cuz they, I think they stepped out of the ring or she thought they did. Yeah.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: See they don't even know the rules. Um, she grabbed it. Yeah, yeah. So it's not like, it's not like she beat Nyan for that point. She kind of just didn't stop playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Either way, naya kind of power through the her to score and I, and then amanda just didn't make the next winner. She got, she got a dead ball. And I don't remember seeing Nia's 2nd, 2nd make though. So I don't remember what happened there.
[00:43:44] Speaker C: I think like that one was just like she walked up kind of like push amanda down.
[00:43:50] Speaker A: Oh, that's right.
[00:43:51] Speaker C: Through what? Stunned, tried to get back up, grab on her, missed her and then, and she just like sliding them all in.
[00:44:00] Speaker A: I couldn't remember what happened.
[00:44:01] Speaker C: Boom, boom air horn it's over. Go home gtfo.
[00:44:06] Speaker A: Pack your shit. So Leroy and Tony was a little bit more um, action packed. Yeah. Which I like said, like I said I have, I remember wanting to like Tony more in the season that I saw him but there was some reason why I didn't have end up liking them at the end. But I didn't hate him.
I just don't think I saw enough of him to actually be like, he's one of my favorites.
[00:44:29] Speaker B: Because you would get kicked out.
Yeah. I love Tony, I have nothing against him but he just always let his personal life and the drama in the house get to him and he was never able to compete because, I'm not kidding, they sent him, he went packing several times, just because he got into an altercation with somebody, Leroy thought he.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: Was gonna be able to walk over Tony.
And from what I remember from Tony, I was like, yeah, I don't think he's gonna be able to do that. Tony beat him, and Leroy and Amanda go home. So we have our first two elimination.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: I was so sad. I love Leroy, and I wanted to see him play because he technically retired at his last season. Then he did all stars, and then he came back to do this, and his second baby was just born, and it's like, he wanted to get a win. And I. He was out the first night. Like, I. My heart went out to him. I was like, if.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: If it's like other shows, they don't even get to go home right away. So he's gonna be out. He's gonna be, like, in a bunkhouse waiting for everybody to finish, basically.
[00:45:35] Speaker B: And I don't know, since we're. Before we move on, if you caught Tony in his interviews, like, he was feeling salty about bananas cheering for Leroy more than Tony.
[00:45:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: And so that's definitely gonna be some drama that's gonna come up in the next episodes, because those three were. They were tight, but at some point, Tony and Bananas became enemies, and then they were together as partners for rivals. Anyways, so I'm just. I'm curious to see how that's gonna play out the whole Tony and bananas story.
[00:46:08] Speaker C: Tony and Banana split.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: Yeah. But, um.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: Era. One elimination poll wrestle. We'll go first with the females, because they went first. We have Katie, which is the challenge loser, and Anissa, which was the winner's vote. And Nissa was pretty sure she was gonna go in just because CT was the one that was made as the.
No, no. Was it CT that made the decision? That, was it just the male? Okay.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: No, she. Yeah. Rachel put it on CT, which.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: I don't know what their. Their whole deal is between CT and then this.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: So, do you know, I think it's just her. Her challenge resume of, you know, sometimes giving up or not being able to complete a challenge or, you know, people feel like having her as a partner sometimes, like a death sentence or, like they're gonna. They're gonna. They're gonna weigh her down and they're not gonna be able to win. I think it's just. I think it's just the competitive part. I don't think it's any drama that I know of. I think it's just her performance and CT, you know, the last couple of.
[00:47:13] Speaker A: Seasons that I've seen. She's actually kick butt.
[00:47:16] Speaker B: Yes. No, she's a good competitor, but I think it's. Her endurance is what gets her, like, the longevity of some of those finals. She isn't. People don't believe she'll be able to do it, and because they're being.
I don't know what it would. Not sexist or ageist, but whatever against her body shame. Yeah, but there you go. Body shaming.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Which, look, when I saw the game they're playing, I'm like, she's gonna tear up.
And they even. They even. They even said it. She's just gonna turn and throw Katie on the ground. And, I mean, it did happen, but Katie is dating or married to fighters. And like, that.
She said. She said that. She said something like, she was married to someone and who does some sort of combat sports like that and which always. Oh, that makes sense because she did. She did a good moves. Martial. Martial arts moves, mixed martial arts moves on her.
[00:48:13] Speaker C: She was throwing some, like, wrapped up. She wrapped herself around her. But spider monkey.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: But Anissa, she was just too strong for her at the end. And she. She wanted, like, two in a row. Right? She does not. Like, they had to go to the third one. So, yeah, I kind of felt like she was gonna win if this was. Maybe. If this was balls in, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But I think I've seen. I think I've seen Anissa do the shelter one before, and I think she did okay, if I remember correctly.
No, no, it's the one that you said that was the. The alternate one that you said when they. They start with the rope. The rope.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: Yeah, but, yeah, I. She did. She has done that one.
[00:48:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yeah, that one was two. Two in a row for Alyssa. Katie was the loser with being the winner, like I said already. And Katie goes home. Are you okay with Katie going home?
[00:49:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't mad about it.
[00:49:14] Speaker A: The males.
The males. Mark was the challenge loser with Derek being the winner's vote.
[00:49:20] Speaker B: He sacrificed himself. We did see.
[00:49:22] Speaker A: Yeah, he auto on my dude. Yeah.
Which, um.
Which Derek, he says he's the. He's known for pull. Pull. Russell, I have no idea what. What his chat, what his resume on that is, but he's never lost.
[00:49:42] Speaker B: I don't know how. I don't know how many times he's done it, but they said he's never lost that one.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: Did this the way this went, did it surprise you?
Pretty sure. I mean, Derek being the smaller one doesn't make has nothing to do with this one, because he actually just uses leverage way better than Mark did.
[00:50:00] Speaker B: I wasn't surprised, and I was happy the way it was because I wanted. I wanted to see Derek. I like Mark, and I've seen him in seasons and stuff, but I don't know. I like Derek more.
[00:50:09] Speaker A: I didn't know who Mark was, and I. I'm not really sure what who Derek is, but I feel like I've seen him. So it's not like he did some.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: More recent seasons, but because he wasn't in with the. The new crowd, I guess, like, he was one of the ones they went for first, like, to throw down an elimination just because it was, like, more of a threat strategy. They're like, well, let's get him out. He's already won before or whatever, and, like, they were trying to make a name for themselves. And so I noticed that when they would bring in, you know, some of the legends, those were the ones that they would target and try to get out first, which. It makes sense if you want to win the game, you want to get out the people who have already done it, so that way, you have a better shot. So I think that's probably why you haven't seen Derek that much, because when he did do the more recent seasons, he was one of the ones that they would try to get out first.
[00:50:58] Speaker A: And I'm assuming we're going to see more of Anissa being upset with Rachel, not protecting her.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: Oh, for sure.
[00:51:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:06] Speaker C: She sounded salty.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: That's a whole saga. The Rachel and Anisa, as you saw their pictures, the rollback reel of their relationship.
[00:51:16] Speaker A: So we'll go to era four elimination hall bra. We have the female competitors, Nuris, which is the challenge, loser, versus Olivia. The winner's vote, which was Olivia ever with Horatio.
[00:51:29] Speaker B: No. They were ride or dies for the ride or die season, but they were never a couple.
[00:51:34] Speaker A: Like, couple. Okay. So I was like, man, there's. So there's. There's an added level to this, because Mauricio and Olivia were. Were partners in his first season.
Yeah.
[00:51:47] Speaker B: And they really.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: Well, that was in the recent first season two, right?
[00:51:51] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:51:52] Speaker A: Who was her?
[00:51:55] Speaker B: Nellie Nelson.
[00:51:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
He. He specifically chose Olivia because he thought that it was gonna be easier for her for Nuris to beat than anybody else there. What do you think? Is there anybody else that Narice could have won?
[00:52:10] Speaker B: Could it be not at hall brawl?
[00:52:14] Speaker A: Look at.
[00:52:16] Speaker B: You have Jenny, who's like a walking action figure, and then I feel like the only person, body wise, that she could have matched up with was your favorite. What's her name?
[00:52:27] Speaker A: My favorite?
[00:52:28] Speaker B: Well, not.
[00:52:28] Speaker A: Oh. Michelle.
[00:52:29] Speaker B: Michelle. Yeah. I think size wise, she could have had a chance against Michelle.
[00:52:34] Speaker A: Although Michelle's actually. Actually pretty strong for her size.
[00:52:36] Speaker B: No. Yeah. I'm not saying she's not strong, but I'm saying, like, size wise, like, standing next to each other, just looking at them.
That would have. Because who are the other girls? I can't even think of them right now.
[00:52:48] Speaker A: Jenny.
Uh.
[00:52:51] Speaker B: Shoot. Jenny. Olivia.
[00:52:52] Speaker A: Casey.
[00:52:53] Speaker B: Casey. Yeah. There's no way. Yeah, I think. I think he didn't do her dirty at all. Picking Olivia was the best option. For what? Who they could have chosen, which he did say.
[00:53:04] Speaker A: He did say. He was like. He didn't think it was gonna be hall, bro.
[00:53:07] Speaker B: Yeah. But. Yeah. For Halbra. Yeah. Olivia, she's got the cake, which I.
[00:53:13] Speaker A: Actually thought that Narise was gonna actually get 1.1 point. I thought she was gonna get one point, but then they kind of turned on her when she got her run.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: When she needed a run.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: Yeah. When she got her ankle and pulled her out. That's it.
She put up.
Olivia being the winner's vote wins that one. She stays in the Reese goes home male competitors, Theo versus Polly.
And I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I know who you wanted to win, which you said you hated. Polly.
[00:53:41] Speaker B: We don't have to repeat the things that I said.
[00:53:47] Speaker C: Just so you know. Ruth hates Polly.
Hates the strong word. She does not like Paulie.
[00:53:53] Speaker A: I'm sorry, but I'll put hashtag.
[00:53:54] Speaker B: I'm gonna. I'm gonna wake up and I'm gonna have all these DM's. I'm just kidding.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: Well, I don't know. Some of these. I feel like some of these people do actually get upset when you call them out on. On social media that you hate them or something like that. So I don't know. Anyways, when I just saw these two line up, I'm like. Feels way too big for this. The only way Paulie has a chance is to. To get really low. Yeah. To go really, really low. But I feel like Theo went super low. Yeah. Uh, what was the first one? He just rammed into him and just sent the freaking edit. Sent them into space or to. I forgot what they said. Yeah, well, you know, he went into doctor strange, though.
[00:54:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:37] Speaker C: I kind of feel like when he hit him, Paulie. Like, just like, uh. And then I'm dead pooped.
Like it was.
Theo hits him, and it's like there was a weird noise it just came out of his body, and his souls, like, disappeared. He just, like, crumples.
[00:54:55] Speaker A: It's like, yeah, that was a nasty hit.
[00:55:01] Speaker C: Everybody. Everybody around was like, oh.
Their faces were like, ow.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: And they kept replaying it, and I was laughing every time, like, everybody, just at the same time. Ooh.
[00:55:15] Speaker A: I think he had a better chance of second the second time around, but I, there was no way. I didn't see him beating this guy.
[00:55:22] Speaker C: He's like, I got a plan. I gotta make a plan.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: Yeah, what's your plan, bro? You should have had the plan before.
He's an idiot. That's why this isn't the first time he's been in elimination. And, like, something like, he's been knocked out before, and he always has an excuse. Always said, I'm like, he talks like he has the biggest mouth on the seasons he was on still seem like that. And then, like, when he'd be, when it was time for him to prove himself, like, it would just never happen. And I'm so glad I don't have to watch him the whole season.
[00:56:00] Speaker C: It was his gift to you.
[00:56:02] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:56:05] Speaker A: So final elimination of the night before. Wait. Nope, sorry, wrong. One era, two, take shelter. We have the female competitors. Actually, this was done all at once. And we have the female competitors. Kellyanne versus Kara Maria. Male competitors, Ryan versus Brandon. Brandon being the winner's vote. Ryan being the challenge. Loser, take shelter. Reminds me of a survivor challenge. Yeah, same concept. Pretty much the same concept. One person lines up in the other in front of a shelter, tries to build a. What is a barricade? Just keep them out of the shelter. Right. And then they switch, and then they have to try to break into the shelter that the other person just kind of fortified.
[00:56:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: Um, I think of all these that this is the one that I like the least, but, yeah. And then putting them all for them at once, kind of like, you really can't focus on. On one person, overdose. The other, um, surprises on this one at all.
[00:57:09] Speaker C: Just that I didn't fast forward through it.
[00:57:14] Speaker B: I was not surprised. Um, you know, I think for it not being a physical challenge worked in Ryan's favor because it was kind of an equalizer for him and Brandon and nothing against Brandon. I think he's a great guy, a great competitor, but I don't know how much brains he has compared to, like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like he was, like, he even said it himself, had this been a physical challenge or elimination, like, he thinks Ryan wouldn't have stand a chance. But it was kind of an equalizer. And Brian Ryan outsmarted him for sure with his strategy.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: Now, what was I. So Brandon's strategy was put just a whole bunch of things together, make sure, you know, Ryan had a whole. Just, he just used the rope and the. And the, and the chain. Right. And just made sure make. What did he say? Spiderweb or what did he say?
[00:58:13] Speaker B: Well, what he did was he changed it. He chained up the left side of the. Of the cinderbox, whatever, to the gate. Instead, everybody went from one side of the wall to the other and went across, and he kept everything, everything in one single side. So he had more. More slack to play with to make more knots and more tangles all within that one area. And so I think that's what really helped him out.
[00:58:38] Speaker A: So that one, I don't think there was. It was close at all. I think Ryan got in pretty quick. Well, at least from what they showed. The other one, Kellyanne, I looked like she was about to win already. And then also, they just went to Carmel, and she went in. I'm like, wait, what the heck?
[00:58:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:58:54] Speaker A: Um, the edit was really wonky there, for sure.
All right, so out of all the eliminations, which one were you the most surprised by?
[00:59:06] Speaker B: I think I was surprised Leroy went home.
I did not want him to go home.
[00:59:13] Speaker A: So that's also not only the surprise, but also the one that you. You prefer to have, who would have stayed. Right, right, Greg? Any, any. Even though you just know a couple people.
[00:59:25] Speaker C: I was surprised that Paulie didn't actually poop his pants, because that hit was so hard. But I was also surprised that during that, during the poll competition, that Katie did win one, at least at first.
[00:59:47] Speaker A: I actually thought that Katie was gonna put Anissa to sleep.
[00:59:51] Speaker C: Leg lock on that first.
[00:59:53] Speaker A: A triangle, I think, looked like. Did a triangle on her.
[00:59:55] Speaker C: Yeah, she had her. She had her locked up pretty good. I was like, oh, my gosh, this is intense.
[01:00:04] Speaker A: So I watched the video on demand version of this, so it had, like, extra minutes. But I think the next one, the next thing was included in the regular feed.
All the people who were eliminated also had. Were also able to make some sort of vote by ranking the rest of the people in their era, right?
[01:00:23] Speaker B: Correct.
[01:00:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:25] Speaker A: Do we have any indication what this is going to, how this is going to play? Have they, have you seen anything online, anything like that, or any theories?
[01:00:34] Speaker B: I haven't researched it, but according to the previews, there's gonna come a time where, like, they're gonna show the board and I guess everyone's gonna have their points, and they're gonna tell people, like, you have the most points or you have the least amount of points, and it's gonna come into play at some point as far as, I guess, an elimination or who has a leg up on the thing.
[01:00:59] Speaker A: But did they tell them, like, no one up? No. No. But did they tell the people voting this is actually a good thing? You want the people you want, like, you, like, up high.
[01:01:09] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
[01:01:10] Speaker A: Or you want the people you like down low? Because they. Because they don't know what. How to vote either. Unless they were told this is what they.
[01:01:17] Speaker B: They told them to rate them. I think five is, like, the best score, and, like, a zero is, like, the word or a one is the worst. And I think the prompt was rate them as the. I don't know if it's your favorite or the person you think should win or, like, it.
[01:01:33] Speaker A: Wasn't it the strongest or something like that.
Or best.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah, you're best or your whatever, but.
[01:01:40] Speaker A: You know, these people are not gonna do that. So I feel like you kind of play with them and say, do what you all want, whatever. And if you might screw your. You might screw the people you like, and you might end up giving people points to the person you don't.
[01:01:56] Speaker B: True. They're just giving out points, but they don't know.
[01:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:58] Speaker B: It's gonna affect them later.
[01:02:00] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:02:00] Speaker B: And the people.
Excuse me. Do not know.
Like, the people that are still in the game do not know about this voting thing, correct.
[01:02:08] Speaker A: Yep.
So that's. That is something that I, like I said, like I said, the challenge is not necessarily my favorite reality show, but something that I really like about it is that they do mess with the format a lot, and it's usually not frowned upon. Like, other shows where they mess with the format on this one, you're not gonna know what's good, what's going on for sure.
All right, so we're getting right to the end here.
Ruth, you want to. For those who are barely watching this, do you want to recommend a season, one season for someone to go back to watch?
And we'll do that every. Every week. Every week. We'll recommend the new season.
[01:02:54] Speaker B: I have 40 to pick from.
[01:02:56] Speaker A: Yep.
[01:02:57] Speaker B: How many episodes are we doing?
[01:02:59] Speaker A: How many? I mean, I don't know that these challenges sometimes go for, like, 30 episodes. I don't know.
[01:03:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Or it feels like at least I would recommend the. Is it the first rivals? The one.
I can't say who I know.
I was gonna I know the ending. No, no, no. I would. I wasn't gonna say it. I think it's rivals. The first rivals episode.
First because there was. Well, not episode because there was three rival seasons. I believe there's rivals one, two, and three.
[01:03:29] Speaker A: The first rivals is season 21.
[01:03:33] Speaker C: Okay.
[01:03:33] Speaker B: I'll have to look it up to make sure I'm recommending the right one. But can I at least say who the partners are?
[01:03:42] Speaker A: No, you can. You can say some of the people in it.
[01:03:48] Speaker B: Bananas.
Sarah. What's her name? Is in there. Zack's wife.
What's her name? I was. I was kind of sad when we were talking about people that we wish could have come back. Either Zach or.
What's his wife's name?
[01:04:04] Speaker A: I don't know. Zach.
[01:04:05] Speaker B: But Barbie.
Barbie, they would call her. Anyways, forget it. I think whoever's gonna win or the people I think are gonna make it to the end of the final CT. Casey.
[01:04:18] Speaker A: Jenna.
[01:04:19] Speaker B: Jenna. Yes. What's it called?
[01:04:21] Speaker A: Oh, her. Okay. Yeah. Aaron Burnham.
[01:04:25] Speaker B: Yes, for sure. CT. I got a CCT. And Casey. In the end, Tori, Jordan. We didn't even talk about. I didn't even talk about how I was surprised.
[01:04:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I was surprised about that.
[01:04:39] Speaker B: Oh, I'm not looking at. I don't have the computer screen of the list of people in front of me like you do, and you just, like, went through the list. I was like, crap. I was, like, trying to find it on my phone so I could follow along. But I love Jordan. I wouldn't be mad if he won. I love him. Um, yeah, it. It's gonna get interesting, for sure. Based from the previews, there's gonna be a lot of twists and turns that I don't think even us at home are gonna be able to see coming.
[01:05:07] Speaker A: So I. At one point, I actually thought the twist was gonna be that they were gonna eliminate one, like, a third of the.
Of the cast right away, only because.
Yes, I know. I'm talking about survivor again. It didn't actually happen, but there was a rumored season that was gonna happen, and they just confirmed that the first day, it was gonna be 30 people coming in. The very first day, ten people were getting eliminated.
[01:05:32] Speaker B: First survivor.
[01:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Survivor.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: Well, they've done that on the challenge before.
[01:05:37] Speaker A: Oh, shoot.
[01:05:38] Speaker B: They did that.
[01:05:39] Speaker A: Well, they did eight today, so. Yeah.
[01:05:41] Speaker B: Yeah. No, no, it was.
What was the name of it? I forgot the season. I'm gonna have to look if I'm gonna be recommending seasons. I have to go look up which ones they were. But, yeah, they would do a purge in the beginning, and, like, a bunch of people would go home the first episode.
[01:05:58] Speaker A: Wow. I've seen. I've seen when they do it, like, a. Not a purge, but, like, where a couple people go home on one episode, I'm like, what the heck?
[01:06:06] Speaker B: Like, on the first challenge, they're, like, the last two to make it for male and female go home, and they're like, what? And then there's still an elimination on top of that.
[01:06:15] Speaker A: Well, at least. At least they didn't do. Look, again, sorry, guys. Sorry. I know you're here to watch the chat, talk about the challenge, but I'm talking about surrogate in survival Palau. They had 20 people who start the show. They didn't even tell them what to do. They just put them on the island and says, said, do what you need to do.
Right. They started getting to know each other. Whatever.
[01:06:38] Speaker B: The Hunger Games.
[01:06:39] Speaker A: Well. Well, like, a day later, finally, Jeff comes in and tells them they're gonna be in teams. They're gonna choose teams by, you know, picking back and forth. Male and female.
The last man and the last female get kicked off the island right then and there. They don't even get it. They don't even get into. Go into a challenge, anything.
Yeah, I. People are pissed on that, but, yeah, at least they haven't done that. Something like that. At least, I don't think they have, but I know. We'll see.
[01:07:12] Speaker C: I got my prediction now. It's gonna be Amanda. She's gonna win. She's gonna win a battle back and come back in that.
[01:07:19] Speaker A: They've done that before. So they've done. They didn't battle back, right? Or something like that?
[01:07:25] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:07:26] Speaker C: Oh, okay.
[01:07:30] Speaker A: So, hey, no, if it actually happens, then we'll come to you for. For guesses next time.
All right, so, we actually need to come up with our catchphrase for ending the show, but no. Thank you all for joining us here for the first episode of the Spy Shack Challenge edition. And maybe if we actually come up with a new name, we'll rebrand it. But for now, just because it's the. The space shack is the. The more. The older show. We'll keep that for now. And, yeah, thank you, Greg, for. For joining us. And, everyone, congratulate Ruth on her very, very, very first episode. Podcasting.
[01:08:13] Speaker B: Follow me. Add me. Subscribe. Just kidding.
[01:08:16] Speaker A: Well, actually, where can they find you.
[01:08:18] Speaker B: If they want Instagram? Ruthiana Trev. R u t h I.
Wait.
[01:08:29] Speaker A: We'll put it in the notes.
[01:08:31] Speaker B: I don't want to misspell it and you follow the wrong one, you'll be highly disappointed when it's not me.
[01:08:43] Speaker A: Well, we'll put it in the. We'll put it in the. What's it called? In the notes anyways. So, yeah, if you all want to follow her, you can put it on. Well, put it on the notes and you can find her on Instagram. Greg, where can people find you?
[01:08:55] Speaker C: You can find me at that amazing twit on Instagram or on the Twitter.
[01:09:01] Speaker A: That amazing x.
[01:09:02] Speaker C: That amazing. Now that amazing x. That sounds.
That's an interesting name.
[01:09:10] Speaker A: I just broke my rule for naming it just so I can make that joke.
Just to make that joke.
Yeah, you can follow me at perspective on X, since I already said anyways. Also, you can find Greg and I on nerds FTC, on Twitter and on Instagram. And I'm actually the one that does those and threads. I actually manage those. But the podcast that we do nurture in the crypt, you can find both of us there as well. So we'll have all that information in the the bio. This particular episode is not live, but we are thinking of doing a stream on YouTube. See, and we can get some people. It's kind of hard to get some people the next day, late at night, but we'll see what we can do. If you do decide to join us. And you can actually ask questions if you're watching, I'm hoping you're watching it. You're following along because you're watching. But if you're not, you can also ask questions to either Ruth or to Greg. And hopefully you guys can join us every week for this podcast. Also, keep in mind, we're gonna be starting the the actual spy Shack podcast in September when the next season of Survivor starts. Survivor 47. And that will run through. We're also gonna thinking of doing the traders when that starts, which, from what I heard, some. Some rumors, there's gonna be either one or two challenge players that might come in midway, pretty much like they kind of did in the season two. So we don't know. We don't know if that's actually true or not. I don't know if Ruth's gonna watch. There's no challenge beginning with. But we'll see.
But we are thinking of doing that from there. We'll see what happens. I know my co host Mark for the spy shack. He really wants to do, like, every single reality show out there. Impossible. We'll see what other shows we do end up doing. Other than that, we want to thank everyone for joining us again. We'll see you guys next time on the Spice Jack challenge edition.
[01:11:03] Speaker B: Bye.
